JOHN SCALF JR.
Son of
John Scalf Sr. and Edeah Carlisle
John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

 

John Scalf Jr., son of John Scalf Sr. and Edeah Carlisle Scalf was born 1790 – 1800. His date of birth estimates around 1795 from at least one census; however, this is debatable due to his age listed on various census records.

1) From the 1830 census of Russell County, Virginia, John’s birth date is estimated at 1790 – 1800.

2) From the 1840 census of Hawkins County, Tennessee, estimation reveals a date of 1790 – 1800.

3) From the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee his birth date estimates 1795.

4) From the 1860 Scott County, Virginia census, John’s birth is estimated at 1790. This is the last census record found of John Scalf Jr.

It is possible that John Jr. is one of the males in the home of his father in the year 1820 in Russell County, Virginia listed as 16 – 26 years old. This census estimates a birth date of 1794 – 1804 and could just as easily be William or Brittain. Since John Jr. does not appear to have been in the home of his father in 1810 in Floyd County, Kentucky, it is questionable that he would have been in his father’s home in 1820.

There is no male in the home of John Scalf Sr. on the 1810 Floyd County, Kentucky census estimating an age that would correspond to the birth of John Jr., and it is unknown where he may have been during this time but several suggestions are listed for research purposes.

Henry P. Scalf and Elmer Scalf suggested in their writings that John Jr. might have been working on a farm nearby his father in 1810 Floyd County. It should also be noted that John Jr. would have been old enough to marry by 1810 and could have been in Kentucky, Virginia or North Carolina. 

Due to the fact that his father had previously gone to Russell County, Virginia 1806-1810, it is very possible that John Jr. married in Russell County and remained there when his father left for Kentucky. However, John Scalf, Jr. was not found on the 1810 Russell County tax list or as head of house on the 1820 Russell County, Virginia census.

If John Jr. was the young male in the home of Lewis Scalf in Edgecombe, North Carolina then he was most likely born 1790 and certainly would have been old enough to marry at the time his father passed through Russell County, Virginia the first time.

John Scalf, Jr. married Martha “Patsy” Counts believed to have been the daughter of John and Fanny Counts of Russell County, Virginia. It is confirmed by Patsy Counts Scalf in her deposition that she was the wife of John Scalf Jr.; however, her parents cannot be confirmed at this time. Correspondence with the Counts family has failed to confirm who Patsy’s parents were and a search of the Russell County, Virginia records have not been helpful in confirming the names of Patsy’s parents.

It is also stated that her surname might have been Couts but this is in doubt as Counts appears more often in Russell County and Couts could most likely be a misinterpreted spelling of Coats, which happens frequently due to the appearance of the letters in the old writings.

If Patsy’s father was John Counts, then he would have to be the older John Counts, Sr. One John Counts helped John Scalf, Sr. with the bond in Russell County, Virginia when John Jr. was charged with passing counterfeit money. We can safely rule out John Counts, Jr. as being the father of Patsy Counts for he was 20 – 30 years old in 1820 and might have been a brother to Patsy but not her father.

The census records of Russell County, Virginia list the families alphabetically and we cannot determine if the Couch, Counts and Scalf families were living in the same neighborhood in 1820 and 1830. It is not until 1840 that we find a Russell County census in original order, including the microfilm images.

On the 1820 census of Russell County, John Counts, Sr. was listed as 45 and over calculating a birth date of 1775 or before. In 1830, he is listed as 60 – 70 calculating a birth date of 1760 – 1770. He is listed in 1840 as 70 – 80 calculating a birth date again of 1760 – 1770. John Counts, Sr. owned two slaves in 1820, seven slaves in 1830 and six slaves in 1840. As can be seen below, it does not appear that John Scalf, Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf were in the home of John Counts, Sr. in 1820.

1820 Russell Co. VA

John Counts, Sr.

One male

10-16

1804 – 1810

 

One male

16-18

1794 – 1796

 

One male

16-26

1794 – 1804

 

One male

45 and up

1775 or before

 

One female

10-16

1804 – 1810

 

One female

45 and up

1775 or before

 

Four persons in agriculture
Two slaves

1830 Russell Co. VA

John Counts, Sr.

One male

60-70

1760-1770

 

One female

60-70

1760-1770

 

Six slaves

 

 

 


We also learn from the census records that Patsy’s full name was Martha “Patsy” Counts. Patsy was often used for Martha as Polly was often used for Mary. The Counts families were very early settlers in Russell County, Virginia and some of these families were found in Wilkes and Ashe County, North Carolina when the Scalf family was living in Wilkes.

The family of John Jr. and Patsy are quite difficult to follow, possibly due to the lack of records in the area where John and Patsy settled. The Civil War, fire, floods and numerous things took place in these counties resulting in records being destroyed and/or lost. We may never know the facts concerning Patsy’s lineage or the names of John and Patsy’s oldest children. However, we have attempted to confirm and/or rule out the evidence concerning this family and anticipate the connecting evidence will eventually surface to complete this family. .

In Chronicles of the Scalf Family, Henry Scalf lists names of the older children of John and Patsy and believed that John had lived in Kentucky at several different intervals. A link to Henry’s writings is provided here concerning John Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf. These names can be found in Chapter VI, Bitter Years.

 http://www.scalf-family.org/HPScalf/Chapter 6.htm

These names can be found in Scalf Family History, Chapter IV, page 36, John Scalf, Revolutionary Soldier. A link to these writings is also provided.

http://www.scalf-family.org/EDScalf/Chapter4.htm

Both Henry Scalf and Elmer Scalf list the names of the older children of John and Patsy; however, research cannot confirm these names. Attempts have been made to avoid repetition of census records of the families but it appears impossible to write some of these chapters without referring back to what has already been written. To avoid the census records stated previously would be avoiding the time-line and family relationship of these families, which would ultimately cause confusion; therefore, census records will often be repeated in these writings. .

Recall that John Scalf Sr. married Edeah Carlisle 1787 in Edgecombe County, North Carolina. His father, Lewis, was living in Johnston County, North Carolina at this time and John and Edeah are most likely living in the home of Lewis Scalf.  Johnston County is a neighbor to Edgecombe. John and Edeah had two daughters, Nancy and Polly, born 1788 and 1789 respectively.

In 1790, John Sr.’s father Lewis is living in Edgecombe County, North Carolina and in all likelihood, John and Edy were living in the home of Lewis and his wife, Elizabeth.  John Sr. cannot be found as head of house in 1790 and it is assumed this is the reason for the large number of people enumerated in the home of Lewis Scalf at this time.

One of the males in the home in 1790 (16 years of age and over) could also have been John Jr. However, due to the way the 1790 census is compiled, it would be difficult to determine.  It is believed that Benjamin, brother of John Sr. was married at this time as well and had left the home. It is also possible that David had married and was living elsewhere as he should have been 21 at this time.

William Scalf was the only son of Lewis at this particular time that would have been under 16 years old.  Due to the way this census reads, there could have been any one of the older sons of Lewis married and living in the home at this time. It is suspected that John Sr. and his wife, Edy, are in the home but this is speculation only based on the fact that John Sr. is not found as head of house and then appears near his father in 1800 Surry County, North Carolina.

1790 North Carolina Halifax district - Edgecombe County – pg. 54a.

Category Listings for the 1790 census

1st No.

-

free white males 16 years and upward and head of families

2nd No.

-

free white males under 16 years

3rd No.

-

free white females and heads of families

4th No.

-

all other free persons

5th No.

-

slaves

Calf, Lewis...2-3-5-0-0

2 males (16 years and up) including head of family - (Lewis and John Sr?)
3 males (under the age of 16) - (David, William and John Jr.)
5 females - (Elizabeth, wife of Lewis - Edy, wife of John Sr.- Nancy and Polly, daughters of John and Edy – one daughter of Lewis).

By 1800, Lewis and John are found in Surry County, North Carolina in separate homes. Only the census of John Sr. is presented here. See the chapter of Lewis Scalf for his enumeration in this year.

1800 Surry County, North Carolina

John Scalf, Sr.

1 male

0-10

1790-1800

(John Jr.)

1 male

26-45

1755-1784

(John Sr.)

2 females

10-16

1784-1790

(Nancy and Polly)

1 female

26-45

1755-1784

(Edy Carlisle Scalf)

By 1806, John Scalf Sr. and his family have left the Surry/Wilkes County area and are next found on the1810 Floyd County, Kentucky census.

Category listings for the 1810 census:

Males:

(0 – 10)

10 – 16)

(16 – 26)

(26 – 45)

(45 and up)

 

Females:

(0 – 10)

10 – 16)

(16 – 26)

(26 – 45)

(45 and up)

 

Listed in the home of John Scalf, Sr.

Males               Females

3 - - 1 -            3 – 2 -1 –

1810 Floyd Co. KY

John Scalf Sr.

3 males

0-10

(1800-1810)

Brittan, William #2 – Berryman  (?)

1 male

26-45

(1765 – 1794)

John Sr.

3 females

0-10

(1800 – 1810)

Dicey – Lydia – Sela

2 females

16-26

(1784 – 1800)

Nancy and Polly

1 female

26-45

(1765 – 1794)

Edy

These names are listed according to estimation from the information concerning the ages listed in Scalf Family History page, 36; however, this may not be accurate.

The three males could be Brittan, William #2 and Berryman. Lee is listed on page 36 of Scalf Family History as being born in 1810. We do not know the month of Lee’s birth.  Most of the early censuses before 1850 were enumerated August through December of the census year. If Lee was born before August, one of these sons could have been Lee; therefore, the lineup could read, William #2, Berryman and Lee with John Jr. and Brittan missing from the home. At least one older son appears to be missing on this census if ages are listed correctly and is most likely John Jr. but Brittan might be missing as well. 

By 1820, John Scalf, Sr. is found in Russell County, Virginia.

Note that the age categories change on the 1820 census. Males have an extra category that is not listed for the females. This census has caused many headaches for researchers due to the fact that a male aged, 16 – 18 will be listed in this category and then again in the 16 – 26 category. This often results in researchers counting one person twice. If you have more males in your family than can be accounted for, recheck your 1820 census.

1820 Russell Co. VA - John Sr.

Males:

(0 – 10)

10 – 16)

(16 – 18)

(16 - 26)

(26 - 45)

(45 and up)

Females:

(0 – 10)

10 – 16)

 

(16 – 26)

(26 - 45)

(45 and up)

 

5 males

0 - 10

1810 – 1820

Lee – Ira – Jesse – Robert and Peter

2 males

10 - 16

1804 – 1810

Berry – William

1 male

16 - 18

1802 – 1804

Brittan

2 males

16 - 26

1794 – 1804

Brittan and John Jr (?)

1 male

45 or over

Before 1775

John Sr.

2 females

16 - 26

1794 – 1804

Dicey and Lydia (?)

1 female

45 or over

Before 1775

Edy

John Scalf Jr. was not found as head of house in 1820. Although it is possible that one of the males born 1794 – 1804 could have been John Jr. and one of the females born 1794 – 1804 could have been his wife, Patsy Counts, it is also very possible that one of the males born 1794 – 1804 was the husband of one of the married girls living in the home and again, we are at a loss in confirming the family members in the home.

However, considering the fact that Nancy and Polly do not appear to be in the home at this time, it appears that John Jr. and Patsy could have been living in the home. It is doubtful that Dicey was one of the females listed in the home as well. If Dicey was born 1800, she could have been married at this time.

John Jr’s age was consistently the same on the census records with the exception of this one if this is John Jr. in his father’s home. It seems unlikely that his age would change here. At least one of the females should be Betsy born 1816, as she would have been four years old at this time. According to the estimated marriage date of Lydia, she should also have been listed here. We do not know the exact dates for the marriages for any of these girls so we have no way of knowing if they were married at this time or if they were living in the home of someone else.

The age categories change again in 1830 and John Scalf, Jr. now appears for the first time as head of house.

1830 Russell Co. VA

Males: (Under 5) (5-10)  (10-15)  (15-20)  (20-30)  (30-40)  (40-50)  (50-60)  (60-70)

(70 80)  (80 – 90)  90 – 100)  (over 100)

Females: (Under 5) (5 – 10)  (10 – 15)  (15 –20)  (20 – 30)  (30 – 40)  (40 – 50)  

(50 – 60) (60 – 70)  (70 80)  (80 – 90)  90 – 100)  (over 100)

John Scalf, Jr.

1 male under 5

(b) 1825 – 1830

Richard

 

1 male 30 – 40

(b) 1790 – 1800

John Scalf Jr.

 

1 female under 5

(b) 1825 – 1830

Matilda

 

1 female 5 – 10

(b) 1820 – 1825

(?)

 

1 female 20 – 30

(b) 1800 – 1810

Martha “Patsy” Counts Scalf

 

In 1833 John Scalf Sr. and his son, John Jr. are listed on the Russell County, Virginia Personal Property tax list.  Note that neither John Sr. nor John Jr. was listed in 1836.

Lee Scalf is the only Scalf shown on the 1836 tax list still living in Russell County. It was also in this year that an application for a marriage license was issued in Clay County, Kentucky for Thomas Hubbard to Ann Scalf.

By March of 1837 a John Scalf is back in Russell County and taxed again in 1838 but disappears afterwards. This is most likely John Jr. due to the fact that John Sr. was in Hawkins County, Tennessee making his first appeal for his pension.

Sharon Carter, a Trent descendent and researcher sent the following tax list to me. An explanation of the tax list is listed below to aid those who are not familiar with the tax lists.

The explanation given below is a very thorough explanation of the tax lists. Although the personal property tax lists of Russell County are pretty much self-explanatory, it always helps to understand exactly how the tax lists were structured. I am not certain, but I believe these notes were from Michael Dye who does a wonderful job with the Russell County website and has such helpful information.

“A few Notes about the Personal Property Tax Lists: The numbers following the names on the lists are the numbers of white tithable persons in the household. All males became tithable when they reached the age of 16. Males became responsible for paying tax when they reached the age of 21. On a few lists will be found 2 numbers following a name instead of 1. In those cases the first number represents the number of tithable persons above the age of 21 in the household while the second number represented the number of tithable persons 16 and above but under 21 years of age in the household. Occasionally a person will be found with the number zero (0) following their name. People could be exempted from paying tax due to age or bodily infirmities or when they were engaged in certain professions such as being a clergyman. Women will often be found with a zero (0) following their names. Women were not tithable and in those cases, no tithable males were living in the household.

Tax lists can be a good source for determining a person’s approximate year of birth. They can also help in determining a possible father - son relationship. When a persons name appears on a tax list you can figure that person is at least 21 years of age. If a person appears on a list with, for example, the number 3 following their name, then you can figure that person, besides themselves has two sons at least age 16, but under the age of 21 living with them. Also, as an example, say John Smith in one tax year has a number 3 following his name. Then the next year, John Smith now has a number 2 following his name and Bob Smith now appears on the tax list for the first time. This is a good indicator that Bob Smith was a son of John Smith and that in the year that he appears on the list he reached the age of 21. Sometimes the lists will actually identify a father - son relationship by saying something such as "William Smith, son of John". This is usually done when more than one William Smith is appearing on the list and they were trying to differentiate between them. Approximate death dates and wives names can also be determined from the tax lists. If John Smith has been appearing for several years, and then for example, on the 1798 tax list and future ones he no longer appears, then that is a good indicator that he died about 1798, especially if in his place the name, Mary Smith, for example appears. Often, a woman’s name will appear as "Mary Smith, Wife of John Smith dec'd" or something similar.

One last point, often you will find on a tax list, for example, the names John Smith Sr. and John Smith, Jr. This may indicate a father - son relationship, but not always. Sometimes an older person with the same name as someone younger was referred to as being a Sr. to differentiate the two. It is best when you find this to look at earlier tax lists to see if you can determine when John Smith, Jr. first appeared and if John smith Sr. or another Smith had a reduction in the number of tithables in their household at that time.” http://www.rootsweb.com/~varussel/census/index.html


RUSSELL CO. VA PERSONAL PROPERTY TAX LIST

1833B

March 11 - Scalf, John Jr. (?) - 1 white male over 16 - 2 horses

March 11 - Scalf, John - 2 white males over 16 - 3 horses

John Jr. has no sons 16 or over and is taxed only on himself.

The second one appears to be John Sr. taxed on himself and one son 16 or over. 

1834B - Western Dst.

Feb. 10 - Scalf, John Sr. - 1 white male over 16; 4 horses

Apr. 9 - Scalf, John Jr. - 1 white male over 16; 3 horses

(John Sr. is taxed here on himself)

(John Jr. is taxed here on himself.)

From the 1834 tax list we know that neither John Sr. nor John Jr. had sons aged 16 or over at home.

1835A

Feb. 14 - Scalf, John, Sr. - 2 white males over 16; 2 horses

(John Sr. again is taxed on one male over 16 and himself)

From the tax lists of 1833 through 1835, it is difficult to determine exactly which son was in the home of John Scalf, Sr., but according to family legends, Jesse, Peter and Robert had left the area around 1833. We have nothing to confirm that all three had left the area at this time but we can confirm that Peter and Robert were in Kentucky by 1835 as they had married in that year in Clay County.

Legend states “three brothers left Russell County for Kentucky around 1833.” Robert was born 1818 and would have been around 15 years old in 1833. However, his age could have been listed incorrectly on the census records and he might have been a year or two older at this time.

If all three sons were in Kentucky at the time of the 1834 tax assessment of Russell County, then this son could have been William listed in 1833 and 1835 but is missing in 1834. William might have also gone to Kentucky after 1833 and returned to Russell County by 1835. John Scalf, Sr. had no tithables other than himself in 1834.

Patsy Counts Scalf stated that William II had died by 1845. We have no death date for William and he may have died earlier but it appears he died 1835 – 1840. John Sr. again has no children in the home on the 1840 Hawkins County, Tennessee census.

We know that William was living in October of 1820 when John was charged with assault for bringing William back home after he had been removed by the court of Russell County. We do not know if William remained at home when John Sr. took him back or if he was returned to John Smyth in 1820.

However, the court records of Russell County do not suggest that William was returned to Smyth.  If he remained at home, then William appears to have died after the tax assessment of 1835. There are no children in the home of John Sr. in 1840 Hawkins County, Tennessee.

Patsy Counts Scalf states very clearly the children who were married in her deposition in Hawkins County. She does not state that William I or William II was ever married. It is assumed that if William II had ever been married, Patsy would have stated this. Her only statement concerning the two William’s was that they were both deceased by 1845. She also did not state a number of children for this William. Therefore, our only conclusion concerning William II is that he had died unmarried with no children by the year 1845 and most likely between the years of 1835 and 1840.

This is the last time John Scalf, Sr. appears in Russell County. He had sold his property in December of 1834 and the court minutes of Russell suggest he had left the area by July of 1835. The only Scalf families found in Russell County, Virginia on the tax lists after 1835 were Lee, Brittan and John Jr.

1837

March 7 – John Scalf – 1 white male over 16 – 2 horses.

(This is John Jr. and he is taxed on himself only. No other males over 16 or under 21)

1838A – East Dst.

April 18 - Scalf, John  - 1 white male over 16 – 1 horse.

(This is John Jr. again and is taxed only on himself)

We pick John Scalf, Jr. up again from the 1839 – 1850 School Population, known as “The Squire’s Ledger” in Hawkins County, Tennessee. There is little doubt that this is John Scalf, Jr. Although Celia (Sela), daughter of John Sr., was of school age it is believed from the statement of Thomas Lockard in Hawkins County that he married Sela before 1840.  If this is correct, there were no children of school age in John Sr.’s home in 1839.

This list reveals that John Scalf, Jr. moved from Russell County, Virginia after April 18, 1838 and is now in Hawkins County, Tennessee by the school year of 1839.

Sharon Carter sent this school population census to me. Sharon and Scott Trent, Jr. have been very helpful in sharing their Trent family research with me during the compilation of Alexander Trent and Polly Scalf.

The numbers following the names denote how many children were of school age in the home.

The Squire’s Ledger

A Hawkins County School Population for the years 1839 – 1850

1839 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         4

1840 Hawkins County, TN

(Too faded to read) (Sharon Carter).

John Jr. is listed on the 1840 Hawkins County census, so he was most likely on this faded list as well. (M. Fleenor)

The 1840 census age categories are the same as the 1830 above.

When the 1840 census is compared to the 1850 census, there is one more daughter in 1840 than there was in1850.

This daughter was born 1820 – 1825. John had five daughters and one son in 1840 and four daughters and two sons in 1850. The 1850 census reveals that the oldest daughter had left home by 1850.

1840 Hawkins Co. Census

John Scalf Jr. – pg 236

1 male

10 – 15

1825 – 1830

(Richard)

1 male

40 – 50

1790 – 1800

(John Jr)

3 females

0 – 5

1835 – 1840

(Cristena, Catherine, Mary)

1 female

10 – 15

1825 – 1830

(Matilda)

1 female

15 – 20

1820 – 1825

(?)

1 female

30 – 40

1800 – 1810

(Patsy)

John Scalf, Jr. can be followed through 1847 on the school population census.

1841 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         3

1842 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         4

On the 7th day of December 1842, John Scalf bought a parcel of land from Alexander Trent. It is believed that this John Scalf was John Scalf, Jr. Alexander Trent was the husband of Polly Scalf. This land was located on the South side of Clinch River in the county of Hawkins. In 1842 this land lay in Hawkins but by 1844, this land would have been in Hancock County, Tennessee. It was near Byrd’s Corner, which appears to have been located in what was previously called Puncheon Camp but was changed to Pumpkin Valley. It is now known as Clinch Valley. William Scalf and James Trent witnessed the deed. William is believed to have been a son of John Jr. or a son-in-law but the relationship of James Trent and Alexander Trent are unknown at this time. James might have been a son of Alexander and Polly.

John is listed again in the Squire’s Ledger beginning in 1843 through 1846 in Hawkins County but by 1847 is found listed in Hancock.  This was probably due to the long drawn out legislative problems in the creation of Hancock County.

1843 Hawkins County, TN

 John Scalf        4

1844 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         5

1845 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         5

1846 Hawkins County, TN

John Scalf         5

1847 Hancock County, TN

John Scalf         6

As noted, John Jr. was listed in Hancock County in 1847. Hancock was created in 1844 from Hawkins County; however, due to the slow legislation the county was not official until around 1846-1847. 

*NOTE:  Comparing the ages of John’s children with the information from the Russell County, Virginia Personal Property tax lists, we can see that John Jr. did not have any sons old enough during the 1830’s to be counted as tithables. Richard was born around 1830 and would not have been 16 until 1846. John Jr. was in Hawkins County during this time. Richard’s estimated birth also matches on both the 1840 and 1850 census.

This also reveals that if John Jr. had been the father of John Scalf of Putnam County, Illinois and Isaac Scalf of Iowa, these two sons would have been listed as tithables in the home of John Scalf, Jr. by 1838 with John of Putnam County being counted in 1831 and Isaac by 1838. Another interesting piece of information obtained from the tax lists and census analysis is that John Jr. did not appear to have any male tithables from 1833 through 1838. This certainly appears strange if John Jr. had any sons born before 1830 and if John and Patsy actually had 14 children as stated in Patsy’s deposition. If John Jr. had one son old enough to be counted in 1833, he would have been born around 1817.

This also suggests that the older children of John Scalf, Jr. were females, as females were not counted as tithables. This may be the reason the older children of John and Patsy have been difficult to confirm.

This also raises doubt that William Scalf who married Talitha Scalf was a son of John Jr. William was born about 1819 or 1820 and should have been counted as a tithable in the home of John Jr. in 1837 and 1838. William married Talitha in 1839 in Hawkins County, Tennessee. John Jr. moved there by the school year of 1839, which generally began in autumn. It is possible that John and Patsy had 14 children and some died but according to the above information, most of the children of John Scalf, Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf were females.

1850 Claiborne, TN        27 October 1850                27th Subdivision East District

SCALF, John, Jr.

M

55

(b) 1795

VA

 

              Edy

F

87

(b) 1762

NC

(mother of John Jr)

              Martha

F

43

(b) 1807

VA

(Martha Patsy Counts)

              Matilda

F

23

(b) 1827

VA

(md. Jacob Lay 1851)

              Richard

M

20

(b) 1830

VA

(md. Jane Perry)

              Cristena

F

17

(b) 1833

VA

(md. John Woods)

              Catharine

F

14

(b) 1836

VA

(md. Miles Scalf)

              Mary

F

11

(b) 1839

TN

(md. Ed Messer?)

             James

M

10

(b) 1840

TN

(son)

In 1839 John Jr. had four children of school age. This apparently included an older unknown daughter from the 1840 census, Matilda, Richard and Cristena as Catherine was only three years old in 1839 and could not have been one of the four children of school age.

By 1841, John only had three children of school age. This would include, Matilda, Richard and Cristena. It appears that one of the older children was gone at this time.

By 1842, he now has four children of school age again and this was probably Matilda, Richard, Cristena and now Catherine as Catherine would have been six years old.

The same number of children exists in 1843 but by 1844, John now has five children in school. This would include, Matilda, Richard, Cristena, Catherine and Mary, as James was only three years old at this time.

The number remains 5 until the year, 1847 when he has six children in school. This includes all of the above children listed on the 1850 census unless Matilda was not going to school at this time and John and Patsy had another child which is doubtful since no children are found in the home in 1860. If they had another child, the child would have been at least 13 years old in 1860 and would have been enumerated in John and Patsy’s home in 1860.  The children from the 1850 census are most likely the children in school in 1847. Matilda would have been 18 years old if her age was correct in 1850.  Children in school at the age of 21 have been found in records during this time and it was not unusual so Matilda was probably still in school in 1847.

John’s father John Scalf Sr. died in 1848 in Greene County, Tennessee. This might be the reason John Jr. is not found on the school population census at this time. Another reason could be that the children were not in school. This was not a legal requirement during this time and many children were not able to go to school. We lose track of John Jr. in 1848 and 1849 but by 1850, John Jr. is in Claiborne County, Tennessee. His mother, Edeah Carlisle Scalf is in the home of John and Patsy (Patsy is listed here as Martha).

John Jr. is also listed on the 1850 Claiborne County Land Tax List in District 12.  John owned 50 acres valued at $100. He was charged $.30.  John is also taxed again in 1851 in the same district on the same acreage with the same value. This year his tax was $.25.

1850 Claiborne County Property Tax

Dist. 12

Scalf, John – 50 acres; val. $100; .30 tax

1851 Claiborne County Property Tax

Dist. 12

Scalf, John – 50 acres; val. $100; .25 tax.

It has not been determined exactly when John Jr. left Claiborne County, Tennessee. However, his brother, Ira had sold his land by 1858 and probably moved over to Kentucky. It is believed by this researcher that John and Ira sold their properties around the same time with John Jr. moving to Scott County, Virginia and Ira to Kentucky; however, no deed of sale by John Jr. has been found. 

An Edith Scalf was found on the 1853 Knox County, Kentucky tax list and is most likely Edy Scalf, wife of John Scalf, Sr. She is living near Peter Scalf who was also listed in this same year. This suggests that Edy Scalf Carlisle was living in Knox County, Kentucky near her son Peter Scalf in 1853 as head of house. Ira moved to Kentucky around 1858 or 1859 and Edy may have moved in with Ira at this time.

By 1860, John and Patsy are found living in Scott County, Virginia. No children are in the home and John is listed as 70 years old. John’s occupation is listed as “Miller.”  It should be noted here that all the females on the 1860 Scott County, Virginia census were listed as “spinsters.”  The reason for this is not known. 

The fact that John’s occupation is listed as a “Miller” coincides with the story related from some of the marital lines of this family concerning John’s suit against the Gose-Bush families of Russell County.

The records do show that Valentine Bush owned a mill in Russell County, Virginia passed down from his father and that he lost this mill. Legend has it that John won his suit and became the owner of this mill. Although records have been found to establish that John did win his suit, no records have been found by this researcher to confirm that John Scalf, Jr. became the owner of the mill.

1860 Scott, VA           July 11 1860               Estillevile District

John Scalf

70

M

NC

(b) 1790

miller

Martha

60

F

VA

(b) 1800

spinster

John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts Scalf were not found after 1860 and presumed to have died 1860 – 1870. No death record has been found at this time. John Jr. might have died and Patsy survived him and remarried but no marriage record has been found at this date.

An effort is made here to present as much as is known, along with what has been found of the older children of John Jr. and Patsy. It is our hope that descendents will read this material and be able to fill in some of the gaps in these families.

A listing of the older children believed by Elmer Scalf to have been children of John and Patsy is listed here, along with the children found on the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee who are certainly the known children of John and Patsy.

An attempt will be made to present what is known of these folks and theories concerning them in relation to John and Patsy. The first eight children are the ones not listed on census records.

Scalf Family History, page 157-158 by Elmer D. Scalf states that John Scalf, Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf had the following children:

     1)  Ann Scalf (b) 1811, married Thomas Hubbard April 6, 1826 in Clay County, Kentucky. (Marriage record shows 1836). (Not a proven child of John Jr. This could also have been Ceely Ann Scalf, daughter of John Scalf, Sr. as John Sr. is believed to have been in Kentucky in 1836).
     2)
  John Scalf (b) 1814 Married 1) ____ 2) Eliza Tate. (Not a proven child of John Jr. Evidence suggests he was a son of Benjamin Scalf)
    
3)  Rebecca Scalf (b)?  Married Abijah Edwards 1860 Clay Co. Kentucky. (Not a proven child of John Jr.).
     4)
  Fielding Scalf (b) 1816 Married Rachel _____. (Not a proven child of John Jr.).
    
5)  William Scalf (b) 1819 Married Tabitha Scalf (Hawkins County, TN 1839).(Neither William nor Talitha are proven children. Talitha might have been a daughter or a daughter-in-law).
    
6)  Isaac Scalf (b) 1822 Married Sarah J. _____. (Not a proven child of John Jr. Isaac Scalf of Iowa married Sarah Jane Smith, daughter of Jesse Smith. Other evidence points to the family of Benjamin Scalf).
     7)
  Celia Scalf (b)?  Married Thomas Jackson. (Not a proven child of John Jr).
    
8)  Greenberry Scalf (b) 1827.  Placed in home of Ransome Stewart in KY. (Appears to be son of Ira Scalf).
    
9)  Matilda Scalf (b) 1827 Married Jacob Lay August 14, 1851 in Grainger Co. TN. (Proven child of John Jr. per 1850 census – Married in Grainger Co.TN).
   10)
  Richard Scalf (b) 1830 Married Jane Perry 1852 Claiborne Co. TN. (Proven child of John Jr. per 1850 census – married in Claiborne Co. TN)
   11)  Christine Scalf (b) 1833 Married John Wood July 24, 1851 Claiborne Co. TN (Proven child of John Jr. per 1850 census -Claiborne Co Marriages).
   12)
  Catherine Scalf (b) 1836 Married Miles Scalf (son of Ira) September 14, 1854 Claiborne Co. TN. (Proven child of John Jr. per 1850 census -Claiborne Co. Marriages).
   13)  Mary A. Scalf (b) 1839 married Ed Messer. (Proven child of John Jr. per 1860 census).
   14)  James Scalf (b) 1840 married _________.  (Proven child of John Jr. per 1850 census -No information).


ANN SCALF HUBBARD
Daughter of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Ann<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

It is stated that Ann Scalf was the oldest daughter of John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts Scalf. Ann is reportedly born 1811 and married Thomas Hubbard in Clay County, Kentucky in April of 1826. However, the marriage of Thomas Hubbard to Cealy Ann Scalf took place in April of 1836. 

We cannot rule out the fact that ages and birth dates are known to be stated incorrectly on the records. Due to this knowledge, it is possible that Ann was a daughter of John and Patsy, but at this point only descendents of the Thomas Hubbard line can help solve this mystery. Records and family legend will need to be compared in order to sort this out. It is also possible that this Cealy Ann Scalf was the daughter of John Scalf, Sr. since John is believed to have been in the area at this time.

Analyzing what we know verses what we do not know concerning the older children of John Scalf Jr. and Martha (Patsy) Counts Scalf we find the following:

Fact 1:  What is known.  Scalf Family History, page 155 states the following:

“It is certain that John, Jr. and his new bride, Patsy Couts, had arrived in Clay County, Kentucky by 1811 as this was the year their first child, Ann Scalf, was born. Ann Scalf later married in Clay County to Thomas Hubbard on April 6, 1826.”

Ann would have been 15 years old in 1826 but this was not uncommon for marriage during this time. The date for the marriage of Ann Scalf to Thomas Hubbard is actually 1836. The date listed by Elmer was probably a typing error. Ann would have been 25 years old in 1836 if she was born 1811 and she could have been born later.

The following is a response to a message posted on the Hubbard forum received from Gary Smallwood August 9, 2004

“Margaret: I don't know if you found your Thomas Hubbard or not, but from my records this Thomas is two different Thomas Hubbards. Thomas Hubbard b: abt 1804 was married to an Elizabeth and had four children and then there was this one; Thomas Hubbard b: abt.1776 was married to Cealy Ann Scalf plus two other women”

Fact 2: Ann Scalf married Thomas Hubbard - 04-06-1836   Clay Co. KY (Clay County Bride Index).

Fact 3:  Around the latter part of 1835 and early 1836, the Scalf family was beginning to leave Russell County, Virginia and this would coincide with the marriage of Ann Scalf to Thomas Hubbard in Clay County, Kentucky in 1836 as there is evidence that some of John Sr.’s children were in Kentucky between 1836 and 1840. However, the families of John Jr., Ira, Polly Scalf Trent, possibly Nancy Scalf Collins, Lydia Scalf Painter and Cecelia Scalf Lochard were in Hawkins County, Tennessee by 1840 where they were enumerated on the 1840 census.  William Scalf who married Talitha Scalf in 1839 Hawkins County was also there.

NOTE: This William was not the son of John Scalf Sr. The son of John Sr.; William No. 2 had died by 1845 according to the statement of Patsy Counts Scalf. Therefore, he could not have married Talitha Trent in 1839 Hawkins County. Her husband left his will in Union County, Tennessee in 1852.

Fact 4:  Page 128 of the 1820 Clay County, Kentucky census lists a Thomas Hubbard as head of house. However, both the older male and female are listed in the category of 45 and over. This would not be Thomas and Ann Scalf Hubbard.

Categories for the 1820 census:  

Males:  (0 – 10)   (10 – 16)   (16 – 18)   (16 – 26)   (26 – 45)   (45 – or above)          

Females: (0 – 10)   (10 – 16)    (16 – 26)   (26 – 45)   (45 – or above)

Thos. Hubbard   0-0-0-1-0-1 ------- 0-0-0-0-1

One male 16 – 26
One male 45 and above
One female 45 and above

Fact 5:  From the 1830 census of Clay County, Kentucky, we find a Thomas Hubbard age 20 – 30 with a wife the same age but this again is not Thomas and Ann because they married in 1836 and would not have been listed on the 1830 census.

A Thomas Hubbard was not found in 1840 as head of house but this could be due to the misinterpreted spellings of some names on census indexes.

Fact 6: By 1850 a Thomas Hubbard is found as head of house in Knox County, Kentucky. This may or may not be Ann Scalf who married Thomas Hubbard. If so, her name was Elizabeth Ann Scalf for she appears as Elizabeth here. However, this does appear to be the Thomas Hubbard and Elizabeth mentioned above by Gary Smallwood.

For research purposes, this family was followed through 1870 in the event that this is the correct Ann Scalf and Thomas Hubbard. Of course, the ages conflict from census to census as usual.

It appears that either Thomas had died before 1870 or they had divorced because Elizabeth is in the home of her son, James Franklin Hubbard in 1870. Her last daughter, Ellen, was also in the home. As can be seen on these census records, it is difficult to estimate Elizabeth’s approximate birth date due to the conflicting ages stated on the census records.

1850 Knox Co. KY     1 August 1850

HUBBARD, Thomas

45

1805

TN

Farmer

               Elizabeth

35

1815

VA

 

               Jane

12

1838

KY

 

               Franklin

  3

1847

KY

 

               Emily

  1

1849

KY

 


1860 Knox Co. KY     6 July 1860     Stinking Creek District         Flatlick

HUBBARD, Thomas

60

1800

KY

Farmer

             Elizabeth

40

1820

VA

 

             Eliza Jane

20

1840

VA

 

             James

14

1846

VA

 

             Emeline

  7

1853

VA

 

             Ellen

  5

1855

VA

 


1870 Knox Co. KY     8 September 1870      Subdivision 95            Barboursville

HUBBARD, James

22

1848

KY

             Susan

20

1850

KY

             James F

  4

1866

KY

             John W

  2

1868

KY

HUBBARD, Elizabeth

56

1814

KY

             Ellen

14

1856

KY

Speculation:  Several clues might indicate this family to be Thomas and Ann Scalf Hubbard. There is a Messer family living nearby Thomas Hubbard in 1850. Ann’s sister, Mary, is reported to have married Ed Messer. In 1860, the Thomas Hubbard family is living just down the road from Peter Scalf, an uncle to Ann Scalf.

This is certainly not enough evidence to confirm this is Ann Scalf and Thomas Hubbard and has been offered only as an avenue of research. Again, we are left to wonder if John Jr. did have a daughter named Ann who married Thomas Hubbard in 1836 Clay County, Kentucky of if this could have been Cecelia Scalf, daughter of John Scalf, Sr. who married Thomas Hubbard and then Thomas Lochard. Descendents of the correct Thomas Hubbard may be able to add to this.

The only other explanation that can be offered concerning this matter is the fact that the records might have been confused between Lockard and Hubbard. The marriage bond for Thomas Hubbard and Cealy Ann Scalf would need to be studied closely to determine if the name Hubbard could have been Lockard.


REBECCA SCALF
Daughter  (?) of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts

Rebecca Scalf is reported to have been a daughter of John and Patsy Counts Scalf. It is reported that she married Abijah Edwards 1860 in Clay County, Kentucky. This may be correct but several questions arise concerning Rebecca.   

     1) Why did Rebecca not marry until 1860?  Although the Scalf Family History does not give an age for Rebecca, it is safe to assume she was not born after 1827 because had she been born this late, she would have been listed on the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee after Matilda who was born in 1827. 
     2)
 Was Rebecca married prior to her marriage to Abijah Edwards in 1860?  If Rebecca was the child on the 1840 census that was older than Matilda, she would have been around the age of 35-40 years old when she married Abijah. If she were older than this child on the 1840 census of John and Patsy, she would have been even older when she married Abijah.
    
3)
 If she was the unknown child in John Jr.’s home in 1840, why was she not listed on the census record of 1850 if she waited until 1860 to marry?

It is listed in Scalf Family History that John Jr.’s children were in various homes at various times but there is no explanation for this. It has also been stated that Berryman’s children were in various homes at various times but this also is questionable and cannot be confirmed.

If Rebecca Scalf who married Abijah Edwards was the daughter of John and Patsy she surely married someone else prior to her marriage to Abijah. If she was not their daughter, then she was the daughter of another Scalf family member, possibly one in Kentucky or to take the mystery a bit further, she might have been the wife of a Scalf who had died, divorced or she was illegitimate. 

Whichever is correct, it does not seem logical that Rebecca who married Abijah Edwards was the daughter of John Scalf Jr. and Patsy Counts. Descendents of Abijah Edwards might be able to help us solve this mystery.

It is confirmed that a Rebecca Scalf did marry Abijah Edwards 1860 in Clay County, Kentucky by the Kentucky Marriages, (bride index).

Rebecca Scalf to Abijah Edwards             08-21-1860 Clay County, Kentucky

 

FIELDING SCALF
Son (?) of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts

Fielding Scalf is listed as a son of John Scalf Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf and was born about 1816. Nothing has been found concerning Fielding at this time. His wife is listed as Rachel. The children of Fielding and Rachel are listed as taken from Scalf Family History, page 159.

     1) John R. Scalf – born 1841
    
2)
 Robert Scalf – born 1846
    
3)
 Davey Scalf – born 1848
    
4)
 Harriet Scalf – born 1853
    
5)
 Caleb Scalf – born 1855

The above names John R. Scalf, Robert, Davey, Harriet and Caleb have failed to surface in the Tennessee or Virginia records but may be in the Kentucky records. These folks cannot be confirmed as part of the John Scalf Jr. family at this time. Greenberry Scalf had a son John R. Scalf but he was born much later than this John R. Scalf. Greenberry himself was born 1841 or 1842.

It should be noted that a Daniel Scalf is buried in the same cemetery as Richard Scalf. Richard was a known son of John Scalf, Jr. and Patsy Counts Scalf. It is believed that Daniel was a son of John and Patsy and Daniel might have been a middle or first name for Fielding.
 


WILLIAM SCALF
Son (?) of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts

William Scalf was born about 1819 and is reported in Scalf Family History to have been a son of John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts Scalf. This also cannot be confirmed. Although William lived in the same area that John and Patsy lived in, there is not enough evidence to confirm that he was actually a son. The tax lists of Russell County also deny that John Jr. had a son before Richard was born around 1830.

William’s wife, Talitha Scalf, could just as easily have been a daughter of John and Patsy. Talitha was born around the same time as the daughter listed on the 1840 census of Hawkins, Tennessee in the home of John and Patsy. This daughter is unknown at this time.

In studying the family of Lee Scalf it does not appear that Talitha belonged to Lee either.  Lee Scalf had two daughters born 1830 – 1835 and one son born 1835 – 1840 on the 1840 Russell County, Virginia Census.  Talitha was born earlier than the daughters of Lee Scalf.

This raises the question of whether or not Talitha was actually a Scalf before her marriage or whether she might have been the daughter of Brittan and his wife Talitha Couch.

William and Talitha are first found on the 1840 Hawkins County, Tennessee census.

1840 Hawkins County, TN

Scalf, William

One male

20-30

1810 – 1820

 

One female

10-15

1825 – 1830

 

One female

15-20

1820 – 1825

 

There appears to be a female in the home that would have probably been a relative of either William or Talitha. William and Talitha married December of 1839 in Hawkins County, Tennessee so they would not have children this age in 1840.

By 1850, William and Talitha have moved over to Claiborne County near Scalf and Trent relatives.

1850 Claiborne CO TN        27 October 1850

SCALF, William

31

M

VA

(b) 1819

              Talitha

25

F

VA

(b) 1825

              Henry P

9

M

TN

(b) 1841

              Mary J

8

F

TN

(b) 1842

              David

6

M

TN

(b) 1844

              John

5

M

TN

(b) 1845

             Mariah

3

F

TN

(b) 1847

             Sarah

1

F

TN

(b) 1849

William Scalf died within a couple of years after his move to Claiborne County. His will was found at the Union County Historical Society, Maynardville, Tennessee and is listed below.  This will had been copied from the books by the Historical Society and may contain errors.

Recorded in Minute Book A, “Guardian Book” page 99 Union County, TN 1856 – 1877, microfilm roll 1. WGT.

Will of William Scalf

I, William Scalf of the County of Claiborne and State of Tennessee, being in sound mind and disposing of my property both real and personal, I will and bequesth unto my beloved wife TIBITHA all the land and estate and all my personal estate that I am seized of and possessed of out of which I want all my just debts paid and the remainder to be kept or disposed of as she may wish to do.

October 5th 1852                                             Signed: William (X) Scalf

Attest: I. G. Palmer

            (?) Keck

            John Sharp

No further records were found for William after this will and it assumed he died during the same fly cholera epidemic that took the life of Rosannah Gibson Scalf.

Interestingly, the will of Richard Scaff was also sent to me at the same time. I had not requested this but was certainly glad to receive it.  This will be listed under the family of Richard Scalf and Jane Perry.

After the death of William, Talitha remarried to Cornelius Trent January 6, 1854 in Claiborne County, Tennessee.

Either Cornelius died or they divorced because Talitha is found living next door to John Scalf Jr. in Scott County, Virginia in 1860. The children in her home appear to be listed with the last name of Morton, however it is the opinion of this researcher that this was an error made by the enumerator. The names of the children appear to match the children in William and Talitha’s home in 1850 with the exception of an additional child.

1860 Scott County, VA          11 July 1860               Estillville District

TRENT, Talitha

40

1820

VA

Spinster

MORTON, Henry

20

1840

VA

Farmhand

         "         David

18

1842

VA

 

         "         Mariah

16

1844

VA

 

         "         Jesse

14

1846

VA

 

         "        Sarah

12

1848

VA

 

         "        Catherine

10

1850

VA

 

         "        Rachel

  4

1856

VA

 

         "        Mary

18

1842

VA

Spinster

On first observation of this census it appeared that all of these children were the children of William Scalf and Talitha but further study of this family reveals that Henry Morton was most likely the husband of Mary, daughter of William and Talitha who is listed last on this census. Henry, son of William and Talitha was listed as Henry P. Scalf on the 1850 census. This Henry in 1860 is listed as Morton. Although the age appears correct, this does not appear to be the same person. 

It is of doubt that Rachel was the daughter of Henry and Mary since Mary was only 18 here and would have been 14 when Rachel was born but it is also possible that Mary did marry very young. Another explanation for Rachel would be that she was the daughter of Talitha from her marriage to Cornelius Trent since they married in 1854 and Rachel was born 1856.  As so often happens on the census records, the enumerator could have gotten confused between the two families and listed Rachel as a Morton.

Review of the 1850 census reveals Mariah was only 3 years old in 1850 and should have been 13 here but is listed as 16. This is only a three year difference and not unusual for the census records.

Sarah was one year old in 1850 but is twelve years old here. She should have been 11. Not a significant difference.

There was no Jesse on the 1850 census but there was a John, age 5 and this could be the same person using different names on these census records. Jesse is listed as 15. John would have been 15 at this time and is likely the same person.

David was six years old in 1850 and is now listed as 18 and this again, is not a significant difference.

In all likelihood, these are the children of William and Talitha with the exception of Henry Morton who is Mary’s new husband. Rachel is most likely the daughter of Cornelius and Talitha. Due to the fact that Henry was a male and married at this time, he was listed under Talitha. His surname was Morton and the enumerator probably forgot what he was doing and listed these children with ditto marks under Henry when they should have been listed under Talitha. If names were stated as Scalf, Morton, Trent, this was probably confusing to the enumerator and he had no idea who was married to whom or which children belonged to whom.

Talitha Scalf Trent was not found after the census and is believed to have died or remarried. No further information is known of this family.

 

  GREENBERRY SCALF
Son of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Greenberry<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Greenberry Scalf (suggested by Henry and Elmer as the son of John Jr.) appears to have been the son of Ira and Rosannah Gibson Scalf and not the son of John Jr.  See the chapter of Ira Scalf for this family.

The next children are the children of John Scalf and Patsy as shown on the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee.

MATILDA SCALF
Daughter of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts

Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Matilda Scalf, daughter of John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts was born about 1827 according to the 1850 Claiborne County, Tennessee census. This could be incorrect as most ages on the censuses usually are. Matilda may have been born earlier than 1827 or even later. At least, three years plus or minus is relied on to be more accurate by this researcher.  Matilda, married Jacob Shelby Lay in Claiborne County, Tennessee August 14, 1851.

Matilda Scalf was a member of the Richardson’s Creek Baptist Church in Grainger County as early as 1849 and is listed on the membership rolls, as well as her sister, Christine, (aka Cristence from the census). Many of the Trent family attended this church. This suggests that John Jr. lived near the Grainger County line when he lived in Claiborne County and possibly the Alexander and Polly Scalf Trent family also.

There are two listings on the application index for the marriage of Jacob and Matilda. One listing records Jacob as Jacob Shelby, the other as Jacob Lay. Descendents and researchers of the Lay family state that his full name was Jacob Shelby Lay. This would explain the two listings, as it appears the clerk was confused as the census enumerators often were.

Jacob Lay was the son of Jesse Lay and Sarah Shelby. This family arrived early in the Hawkins/Grainger/Claiborne/Hancock/Union area very early on and from information via the Lay researchers he came from North Carolina. Jesse Lay, father of Jacob Lay died 1881 in Union County, TN. He was the son of John David Lay.

Descendents of Matilda and Jacob were compiled from a study of the census records and available information. Lay family researchers submitted some of the family names. There is conflicting information however, and a more thorough search may resolve the names of Jacob and Matilda’s children.  

Children of Jacob Shelby Lay and Matilda Scalf:

     1) W. Doc Lay was born July 27, 1852, and died July 18, 1882. He married Adeline Hollingsworth.
     2) John W. Lay was born March 6,1854, and died March 23, 1932. He married Elnora Dinwiddy.
     3) James Thomas Lay was born January 20, 1856, and died July 18, 1882. He married Charlotte Hollingsworth. She was born 1866, and died 1929.
     4) David Lay was born September 12, 1860, and died May 5, 1941. He married Martha Cabbage November 20, 1886 in Union County, TN.
     5) Hiram Lay was born January 20, 1863. He married Minerva Munsey February 1, 1883.
     6) Mary Lay was born January 20,1868, and died January 15, 1935. She married Henry Jones.

The Lay family research shows only six children. Henry Scalf and Elsie Payne Archer corresponded with a Lay descendent during the writings of Chronicles of the Scalf family. This descendent states seven children.

Excerpted from Chronicles of the Scalf Family by Henry P. Scalf.

"Jacob Lay was a son of James Jesse Lay, born in the 1790's in Tennessee. His estate was settled in 1885. Mother of Jacob Lay was Sarah ("Sallie") Shelby, daughter of Samuel Shelby. She was born in 1811 in Virginia, died previous to the 1870 census. James Jesse Lay and Sarah Shelby Lay are buried in Old Lay Graveyard on the Lay farm in Big Valley, Sharp's Chapel, Union County, Tennessee.

"Jacob Lay, one of ten chi1dren, was born May 5, 1831, died Jan. 6, 1912. Matilda Scalf Lay was born May 6, 1824, died April 23, 1884. Both died at Liberty Hill, Grainger County, Tennessee, and lie buried in Locust Grove Missionary Baptist Church Cemetery near Washburn, Tennessee."

Nine children were born to the union of Jacob Lay and Matilda Scalf. Two died as infants. The seven children who lived to adulthood were:

     1) W. Dock Lay, born July 27, 1937. Married Adaline Hollingsworth, born Feb. 7, 1848, died April 20, 1921. (The date 1937 appears to be a typing error) M. Fleenor
     2) John H. Lay, born March 6, 1854, died March 24, 1932. Married Elnora ("Sis") Dinwiddie (1855-1914).
     3) James Thomas Lay, born Jan. 20, 1856, died July 18, 1882. Married Charlotte Hollingsworth, born Dec. 26, 1856, died Jan. 29, 1925.
     4) David Lay, born Sept. 12, 1860, died May 21, 1941. Married first Martha Cabbage, second Arizona Weaver.
     5) Hiram Jesse Lay, born Jan. 20, 1862, died Jan. 16, 1946. Married first Minerva Jane Munsey, second Lydia Knisley.
     6) Hariett Lay, born Feb. 8, 1865, died Dec. 16, 1912. Married Isaac Acuff died June 1912.
     7) Mary Lay, born Jan. 20, 1868, died January 15, 1935. Married Henry Jones, born May 15, 1858, died Jan. 12, 1927.

Issue of W. Dock Lay and Adaline Hollingsworth were Charles (1876-1950), married Helia Hamilton; Martha, married first Charles Buckner, second Alf Vandergriff; Alice, died in the 1950's, age 72, married Azch T. Nicley.

Issue of James Thomas Lay and Charlotte Hollingsworth were William, born Nov. 18, 1876, died July 28, 1959, married Armina Satterfield, born Nov. 17, 1875, died August 6, 1953; G. Nelson, born Oct. 17, 1878, died April 5, 1937, married Sallie McKinney; James David, born June 22, 1880,s died June 27, 1965, married Ora Jane Baker (1884-1946).

Issue of John H. Lay and Elnora Dinwiddie were Jacob, born Nov. 20, 1876, died in the 1950's, married Linda Beeler; Milton, born Nov. 20, 1878, died Dec. 25, 1935, married Lyddie Kitts; Jo. Albert, born June 18, 1884, died unmarried August 26, 1906; Ida, born Jan. 15, 1881, died Dec. 15, 1916, unmarried; Maggie, born August 8, 1882, died May 25, 1935, married Charlie Johnson; Myrtle, born Oct. 28, 1888, died Sept. 21, 1954, married Verlin Acuff; Maudie, born May 15, 1892, died Oct. 12, 1915, unmarried; Matilda, born May 14, 1894, died June 5, 1964, married Herman Kitts; Ethel, born July 9, 1900, died Oct. 24, 1921, married Verlin Acuff as his first wife.

Issue of David Lay and Martha Cabbage and Arizona Weaver the best that can be determined were Lena, born 1886, married Dolph Clark; Oscar Lafayette, born 1888, died July 31, 1957, married Dossie Ailor; Nellie, married Gilbert Wilhoit; Russell, died unmarried; Walter, wife's name unknown; Curtis, name of first wife unknown, but second wife was Louisa Toole; Herbert, name of wife unknown; Timothy; Carl; Maxie, married Glenn McClain; Augusta, name of spouse unknown; Irene, married Northcutt; Fern, name of spouse unknown; Roy, died unmarried, fell off wagon and was fatally injured.

Issue of Hiram J, Lay and Minerva J. Muncey were a son, died infant; Matilda, died infant; James Jesse ("Tom"), married first Maggie Edmondson, second Rachel Banks; Grover Cleveland, born 1890, died Feb. 7, 1966, married Elizabeth Long; Wm. Heman, born 1892, married Bessie Wolfe; Stella B., married Paris Mincey; Lotte Igetta, born 1897, married Clay Webber.

Issue of Hiram J. Lay and Lida Knisley were Samuel Easton, married first Gracie Nicely, second Nicely; Jacob Percy, married Vallie Mincey; May, married Ralph Beeler.

Issue of Harriett Lay and Isaac Acuff were Etta, died 1953, married Lloyd Branson; Dock, married first Lillie Acuff; Jennie, born 1894, died in the 1940's, married Spurgeon Vineyard; Lena, (1894-1954), married first Byrely, second M.D. Bolin; Edwin G., born 1896, married Beulah Russell; Valcus I., born 1900, married Hazel Leona Leffew; Ola, born 1898, married Sedric Vineyard; Emma, married Thedric Howell; John; Birt C.

Issue of Mary Lay and Henry Jones were Minnie Matilda (1886-1961), married J. Porter Kitts; Jacob, married Eva Hopson; Coram K., married Velma Moyers; Bessie, first wife of Isaac Beeler, Clyde, born 1896, unmarried, killed by horse in 1920's; Arah, died unmarried; Vaughn; Pearl, born 1902, married Charles Loope; Verl, married Stella Satterfield; Hollie, married Ina Ruth Fox.

Jacob Shelby Lay and Matilda Scalf Lay family compiled from census records by Virgil Scalf.

1870 Grainger CO TN                       8 June 1870                District 13

LAY, Jacob

M

37

1833

TN

(Scalf), Tilda

F

44

1826

TN

       Mary

F

  7

1863

TN

       Hazletine

F

  6

1864

TN

       Decater

M

17

1853

TN

       Richard

M

20

1850

TN

       Davison

M

15

1855

TN

       David

M

14

1856

TN

       Hyram

M

12

1858

TN

HUNLY, Tery

M

20

1850

TN

 

1880 Grainger CO TN                       June 1880                   District 13

LAY, Jacob

Head

50

1830

TN

TN

TN

         Matilda

Wife

58

1822

TN

TN

TN

         David

Son

19

1861

TN

TN

TN

         Hiram J.

Son

16

1864

TN

TN

TN

         Harriet

Dau

14

1866

TN

TN

TN

         Mary

Dau

10

1870

TN

TN

TN

 

1900 Grainger CO TN                       22 June 1900              District 13

LAY, Jacob

Head

68

Apr 1832

TN

TN

TN

Widower

Matilda Scalf Lay died by the enumeration of the 1900 census.

 

WILLIAM DECATUR “DOCK” LAY
Son of
Jacob Lay & Matilda Scalf
William Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1880 Grainger CO TN                       June 1880                                          District 13

LAY, Wm D.

Head

27

1853

TN

TN

VA

 

(Hollingsworth), Aeline

Wife

29

1851

TN

TN

TN

 

           Charlie

Son

  6

1874

TN

TN

TN

 

           Martha

Dau

  1

1879

TN

TN

TN

 


1900 Grainger CO TN                       19 June 1900                                 District 13

LAY, William

Head

47

Jul 1853

TN

TN

VA

 

             Adeline

Wife

52

Apr 1848

TN

TN

TN

 

             Amos

G-son

  3

May 1897

TN

TN

TN

 


Note:
  In 1900, Archibald & Susan Haynes Scalf are living in the neighborhood. This Archibald is believed to have been the last son of Peter Scalf and Sarah, his second wife (?). Peter was the son of John Scalf Sr.

1910 Grainger CO TN                       15 April 1910              District 5

LAY, W. D.

Head

62

1848

TN

TN

VA

 

Adaline

Wife

64

1846

TN

TN

TN

3 born, 3 living

BUCKNER, Amos G.

Son

13

1897

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN                       16-19 January 1920                    District 6

LAY, Dock Head 66 1854 TN TN TN
         Adaline Wife 70 1850 TN TN TN


1930 Grainger CO TN                       19 April 1930              District 6

LAY, Charles

Head

55

1875

TN

TN

TN

 

          Helen

Wife

52

1878

TN

TN

TN

 

          Hattie

Dau

32

1898

TN

TN

TN

 

          Coyle

Son

20

1910

TN

TN

TN

 

          Woodroe

Son

16

1914

TN

TN

TN

 

LAY, William D.

Father

75

1855

TN

TN

TN

Widower



CHARLIE LAY
Son of
William D. Lay & Adeline Hollingsworth
Charlie<William Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1900 Grainger CO TN                       19 June 1900              District 13

LAY, Charlie

Head

25

Aug 1874

TN

TN

TN

 

          Helen

Wife

25

Jan 1875

TN

TN

TN

2 born, 2 living

          Hattie

Dau

  6

Apr 1874

TN

TN

TN

 

          Ottis

Son

  2

Aug 1877

TN

TN

TN

 


1910 Grainger CO TN                       15 April 1910              District 5

LAY, Charlie H.

Head

35

1875

TN

TN

TN

 

         Helen L.

Wife

34

1876

TN

TN

TN

6 born, 5 living

         Hattie E.

Dau

13

1897

TN

TN

TN

 

         Vallie A.

Dau

11

1899

TN

TN

TN

 

         Lamar E.

Son

  6

1904

TN

TN

TN

 

         Burton

Son

  4

1906

TN

TN

TN

 

         Kail C.

Son

8/12

1909

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN                       16-19 January 1920   District 6                    

LAY, Charlie

Head

46

1874

TN

TN

TN

 

          Helen

Wife

43

1877

TN

TN

TN

 

          Hattie

Dau

23

1897

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lamar

Son

16

1906

TN

TN

TN

 

          Berton

Son

13

1907

TN

TN

TN

 

          Coyle

Son

10

1910

TN

TN

TN

 

          Woodro

Son

  6

1914

TN

TN

TN

 


1930 Grainger CO TN                       19 April 1930              District 6

LAY, Charles

Head

55

1875

TN

TN

TN

 

          Helen

Wife

52

1878

TN

TN

TN

 

          Hattie

Dau

32

1898

TN

TN

TN

 

          Coyle

Son

20

1910

TN

TN

TN

 

          Woodroe

Son

16

1914

TN

TN

TN

 

LAY, William D.

Father

75

1855

TN

TN

TN

Widower

 

JOHN H. LAY
Son of
Jacob Lay & Matilda Scalf
John Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1880 Grainger CO TN                       24 June 1880              District 13

LAY, John

Head

26

1854

TN

TN

TN

 

(Dinwiddle), Harriet E.

Wife

19

1861

TN

TN

TN

 

            Jacob M.

Son

  2

1878

TN

TN

TN

 

            William M.

Son

  1

1879

TN

TN

TN

 


1900 Grainger CO TN                       7 June 1900                District 13

LAY, John

Head

46

Jan 1854

TN

TN

TN

 

          Har elnora??

Wife

44

Apr 1856

TN

TN

TN

8 born, 8 living

          Milton

Son

21

Nov 1878

TN

TN

TN

 

          Sarah I.

Dau in law

19

Jan 1881

TN

TN

TN

 

          Magnola J.

Dau

16

Aug 1883

TN

TN

TN

 

          Mintie

Dau

13

Oct 1886

TN

TN

TN

 

          Maude

Dau

11

Apr 1889

TN

TN

TN

 

          Matilda

Dau

  6

Apr 1884

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lyddia

Dau

19

Feb 1881

TN

TN

TN

 

Note:  This family was enumerated twice in this year. These records are two weeks apart.

1900 Grainger CO TN                       14 June 1900              District 13

LAY, John

Head

46

Jan 1854

TN

TN

TN

 

          Har elnora??

Wife

44

Apr 1856

TN

TN

TN

8 born, 8 living

          Milton

Son

21

Nov 1878

TN

TN

TN

 

          Sarah I.

Dau

19

Jan 1881

TN

TN

TN

 

          Magnola J.

Dau

16

Aug 1883

TN

TN

TN

 

          Myrtie

Dau

13

Oct 1886

TN

TN

TN

 

          Maude

Dau

11

Apr 1889

TN

TN

TN

 

          Matilda

Dau

  6

Apr 1884

TN

TN

TN

 

          Liddie

Dau in law

19

Feb 1881

TN

TN

TN

 


1910 Grainger CO TN                       15 April 1910              District 5

LAY, John

Head

57

1853

TN

TN

TN

 

        H. E.

Wife

56

1854

TN

TN

TN

9 born, 8 living

        Ida

Dau

20

1890

TN

TN

TN

 

        Mertie

Dau

21

1889

TN

TN

TN

 

        Maud

Dau

16

1894

TN

TN

TN

 

        Tilda

Dau

14

1896

TN

TN

TN

 

        Ethel

Dau

  9

1901

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN                       16-19 January 1920   District 6

LAY, John

Head

64

1856

TN

TN

TN

 

         Lina

Wife

64

1856

TN

TN

TN

 

1930 Grainger CO TN                       15 April 1930              District 6

LAY, John

Head

75

1855

TN

TN

TN

Widower

 

JACOB LAY
Son of
John H. Scalf & Harriet Elnora Dinwiddie
John Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1900 Grainger CO TN                       19 June 1900              District 13

LAY, Jacob

Head

23

Nov 1876

TN

TN

TN

 

         Malinda

Wife

21

Feb 1879

TN

TN

TN

 

         Bessie

Dau

  4

Apr 1896

TN

TN

TN

 

         Bertha

Dau

  1

Sep 1899

TN

TN

TN

 


1910 Grainger CO TN           20 April 1910              District 5

LAY, Jacob Jr.

Head

33

1877

TN

TN

TN

 

           Malinda

Wife

31

1879

TN

TN

TN

6 born, 6 living

           Bessie

Dau

13

1897

TN

TN

TN

 

           Bertha

Dau

11

1899

TN

TN

TN

 

           Mossy

Dau

  8

1902

TN

TN

TN

 

           Lettie

Dau

  6

1904

TN

TN

TN

 

           Lucy

Dau

  4

1906

TN

TN

TN

 

           Mollie

Dau

  2

1908

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN           14 & 15 January 1920                       District 6

LAY, Jacob

Head

43

1877

TN

TN

TN

 

          Malinda

Wife

40

1880

TN

TN

TN

 

          Bessie

Dau

23

1897

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lettie

Dau

16

1904

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lucy

Dau

13

1907

TN

TN

TN

 

          Motty

Dau

11

1909

TN

TN

TN

 

          Dora

Dau

  8

1912

TN

TN

TN

 

          Dorothy

Dau

  6

1914

TN

TN

TN

 

          Austin

Son

3 7/12

1916

TN

TN

TN

 

          Cland

Son

1 8/12

1918

TN

TN

TN

 


1930 Grainger CO TN           18 April 1930              District 6

LAY, Jacob

Head

53

1877

TN

TN

TN

 

          Malinda

Wife

51

1879

TN

TN

TN

 

          Auston

Son

14

1916

TN

TN

TN

 

          Claude

Son

12

1918

TN

TN

TN

 

          Eulah R.

Dau

10

1920

TN

TN

TN

 

CARTER, Bertha

Dau

30

1900

TN

TN

TN

 

          Ferd G.

G-dau

  6

1924

TN

TN

TN

 

          R. J.

G-son

4 1/12

1926

TN

TN

TN

 


 

JAMES THOMAS LAY
Son of
Jacob Lay & Matilda Scalf
James Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1880 Grainger CO TN                       June 1880                   District 13

LAY, Thomas

Head

22

1858

TN

TN

TN

 

(Hollingsworth), Lottie

Wife

20

1860

TN

TN

TN

 

             William

Son

  4

1876

TN

TN

TN

 

             David N.

Son

8/12

1879

TN

TN

TN

 


1900 Grainger CO TN           6 June 1900                District 13

LAY, Charlotte

Head

39

Dec 1860

TN

TN

TN

Widow

          Nelson

Son

20

Oct 1879

TN

TN

TN

 

          Pearl

G-dau

  3

Dec 1896

TN

TN

TN

 


1910 Grainger CO TN                       4 May 1910    District 5

LAY, Lottie

Head

52

1858

TN

TN

TN

Widow

 

1920 Grainger CO TN                       20 & 21 January 1920                       District 6

LAY, Charlottie

Head

62

1858

TN

TN

TN

Widow


 

DAVID NELSON LAY
Son of
James Thomas Lay & Charlotte Hollingsworth
David<James Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

David Lay, son of Jacob Lay & Matilda Scalf, was born November 18, 1859 and died May 21, 1941. David was married first Martha Cabbage and second to Arizona Weaver. (Link to death certificate)

1910 Grainger CO TN                       20 April 1910              District 5

LAY, Nelson

Head

29

1881

TN

TN

TN

           Sarah M.

Wife

24

1886

TN

TN

TN

2 born, 2 living

           Edna C.

Dau

  3

1907

TN

TN

TN

 

           I. N.

Dau

7/12

1909

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN                       20 & 21 January 1920                       District 6

LAY, Nelson

Head

40

1880

TN

TN

TN

          Sallie

Wife

35

1885

TN

TN

TN

 

          Edna

Dau

12

1908

TN

TN

TN

 

          Eicie

Dau

10

1910

TN

TN

TN

 

          Flossie

Dau

  7

1913

TN

TN

TN

 

          Ray

Son

3 2/12

1916

TN

TN

TN

 


1930 Grainger CO TN                       16 April 1930              District 6

LAY, Nelson

Head

50

1880

TN

TN

TN

          Sarah M.

Wife

48

1882

TN

TN

TN

 

          Flossie

Dau

16

1914

TN

TN

TN

 

          Ray

Son

  8

1922

TN

TN

TN

 

          Maurine

Dau

4 11/12

1915

TN

TN

TN

 

 

HIRAM JESSE LAY
Son of
Jacob Lay & Matilda Scalf
Hiram Lay<Matilda<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

1900 Grainger CO TN                       16 June 1900              District 13

LAY, Hiram

Head

36

Jun 1864

TN

TN

TN

          Manerva

Wife

38

Dec 1861?

TN

TN

TN

 

          Thomas

Son

15

Apr 1885

TN

TN

TN

 

          Grover C.

Son

12

May 1888

TN

TN

TN

 

          William H.

Son

  7

Jan 1893

TN

TN

TN

 

          Stella B.

Dau

  4

Mar 1896

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lottie I.

Dau

  2

Apr 1898

TN

TN

TN

 


1910 Grainger CO TN                       2 May 1910    District 5

LAY, H. J.

Head

48

1862

TN

TN

TN

          Liza M.

Wife

41

1869

TN

TN

TN

2 born, 2 living

          Grover C.

Son

19

1891

TN

TN

TN

 

          W. H.

Son

16

1894

TN

TN

TN

 

          Stella

Dau

14

1896

TN

TN

TN

 

          Lottie I.

Dau

11

1899

TN

TN

TN

 

          Samuel E.

Son

9/12

1909

TN

TN

TN

 


1920 Grainger CO TN                       15 & 16 January 1920           District 6

LAY, High

Head

57

1863

TN

TN

TN

           Lida

Wife

49

1871

TN

TN

TN

 

           Samuel E.

Son

11

1909

TN

TN

TN

 

           Jacob P.

Son

  9

1911

TN

TN

TN

 

           Ella M.

Dau

  5

1915

TN

TN

TN

 

NICELY, Samuel

Father in law

81

1839

TN

TN

TN

 

           Mehaley

Mother in law

72

1848

TN

TN

TN

 


1930 Grainger CO TN                       15 April 1930              District 6

LAY, High

Head

67

1863

TN

TN

TN

           Lida

Wife

57

1873

TN

TN

TN

 

           Easton

Son

20

1910

TN

TN

TN

 

           Percy

Son

17

1913

TN

TN

TN

 

           May

Dau

16

1914

TN

TN

TN

 

 

RICHARD SCALF
Son of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Richard<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Richard Scalf, son of John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts was born 1830 according to the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee. His birth date from his headstone reads May 2, 1829. Richard died February 7, 1887 in Grainger County, Tennessee where he lived for at least the last twenty to thirty years of his life.  Richard married Jane Perry 1852 in Claiborne County, Tennessee before Union County was created from Claiborne. He moved to Grainger County, Tennessee sometime between 1860 and 1870. Grainger was formed very early so this was a definite move and not a boundary change.

It is unclear to this researcher whether all, part, or any of the children in the home of Richard Scalf were the children of Richard and Jane or if they were the children of Jane from a previous marriage. It has been said that court records exist in one of the counties concerning a suit between the children over the estate of Richard.  This court record allegedly states the names of the children and whether any belonged to Richard. I have not seen this court suit. Nancy, one of the children, did use the Scalf surname.

Review of the census records appears to indicate that Margarett and Alfred were born before Jane’s marriage to Richard. Nancy was born 1853 according to the census and this was after the marriage.

Another Richard is listed but is listed under the name of Richard Perry in 1870. He was born about 1861 after the marriage of Richard and Jane. Elizabeth is listed as Perry above him on this census and is 12 years old and born after the marriage, which complicates things further. This same Richard Perry is listed on the 1880 census as a servant, suggesting he was not a son of Richard or Jane.  

It appears that Jane’s parents are listed in the home in 1870.  James and Mary Perry are listed as 93 and 88 and born in North and South Carolina.

The will of Richard Scalf does not indicate the names of his children, if there were any, so it is difficult to determine who, if any, were the children of Richard Scalf. Richard’s name is listed as Richard SCAFF on this will. No date is given for the will.

1840 Hawkins CO TN

John Scalf, Jr.

1 male

10 –15

(1825 – 1830)

Richard Scalf?

1 male

40 – 50

(1790 – 1800)

John Scalf

3 females

0 – 5

(1835 – 1840)

 

1 female

10 – 15

(1825 – 1830)

 

1 female

5 – 20

(1820 – 1825)

 

1 female

30 – 40

(1800 – 1810)

Martha Scalf


1850 Claiborne CO TN          27 October 1850         7th Subdivision – East District

SCALF, John, Jr. M 55 (b) 1795 VA  
              Edy F 87 (b) 1762 NC  
              Martha F 43 (b) 1807 VA  
              Matilda F 23 (b) 1827 VA  
              Richard M 20 (b) 1830 VA  
              Cristena F 17 (b) 1833 VA  
              Catharine F 14 (b) 1836 VA  
              Mary F 11 (b) 1839 TN  
             James M 10 (b) 1840 TN  


1860 Union CO TN                2 August 1860                        District 11

SCALF, R.

M

33

1827

TN

(Perry)Jane

F

31

1829

TN

        Margarett

F

13

1847

TN

        Alfred

M

  9

1851

TN

        Nancy

F

  7

1853

TN


1870 Grainger CO TN                       8 June 1870                District 13

SCALF, Richard

M

46

1824

TN

            Jane

F

41

1829

TN

            Alfred

M

19

1851

TN

            Nancy

F

17

1853

TN

PERRY, Elizabeth

F

12

1858

TN

            Richard

M

  9

1861

TN

            James

M

93

1787

NC

            Mary

F

89

1791

SC


1880 Grainger CO TN                       19 June 1880              District 13

SCALF, Richard

Head

57

1823

VA

VA

NC

             Jane

Wife

53

1827

NC

NC

VA

PERRY, Richard

Servant

17

1863

TN

TN

TN

                                               

WILL OF RICHARD SCAFF (SCALF)

I, RICHARD SCAFF of the fifteenth district of Union County and state of Tennessee, being of sound mind and memory and considering the uncertainty of this frail and transitory life do therefore make, ordain and publish and declare this to be my last will and testament.  That is after all my funeral debts are paid and discharged the remainder of my estate real and personal, I give bequeath and dispose of as follows   to Wit:   To ALFRED DAVID PERRY an equal portion and to MARGARET KECK one equal portion and to NANCY MARINDO CABBAGE one equal portion. I also wish that out of the above named three that one --- one or my wife is the most trouble on their hands to have extra out of said estate whatever may be right to contribute to his or her trouble and expense.

In witness whereof I have hereunto subscribed the said RICHARD SCAFF in our presence and acknowledged by him to each of the above instrument so substantiated to be his last will and testament and we at the testators request and in his presence signed our names and witnessed and opposite our name our respected places of residence.

JAMES REGAN

Linco – Union County, Tennessee

G.M. HOLLLINSWORTH

Linco – Union County, Tennessee

 

 

Recorded in Union County, TN records page 373. Microfilm roll 2 Adm & Wills 1875 – 1911.  WGT

Nancy Marindo should probably be Nancy Marinda.

Jane Perry was born about 1828. She was in Anderson County, Tennessee in 1830, and Hawkins from 1831 to 1843, Hancock from 1844- 1850, Union 1854-1874, and Grainger 1870 -1880.

Jane married Richard Scalf and two of the children went by the Perry name, Margaret and Alfred David, one went by the Scalf name. This was Nancy. Both Nancy and Alfred married into the Cabbage family. Margaret married William Keck.

 

 NANCY MARINDO SCALF
Daughter of
Richard Scalf & Jane Perry
Nancy<Richard<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Nancy Marindo Scalf, the daughter of Richard Scalf and Jane Perry, was born December 12, 1852 and died July 27, 1891 in Grainger County, Tennessee. Nancy married  James Jasper Newton Cabbage on September 3, 1871 in Grainger County, Tennessee.

Children of James Jasper Cabbage and Nancy Scalf:

     1) Martha Ann Cabbage - born April 26, 1873 and died November 6, 1947 in Grainger CO, TN. (Link to death certificate). Martha married Robert Newton Bryant.
     2) John William Cabbage
     3) Lucy Jane Cabbage
     4) Mary Emily Cabbage
     5) Sarah Adeline Cabbage
     6) Richard McDaniel Cabbage
     7) Pryor Lee Cabbage (Link to death certificate)

               

CHRISTINE SCALF
Daughter of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Christine<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Christine Scalf was born about 1833 in Virginia according to the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee.  Christine married John Wood July 24, 1851 in Claiborne County, Tennessee one year prior to her sister Matilda’s married to Jacob Lay. Both Christine and her sister, Matilda were members of the Richardson Creek Baptist Church. No further information is known of Christine and her family at this time.


CATHERINE SCALF
Daughter of
John Scalf Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Catherine<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Catherine Scalf was born about 1836 according to the census record of 1850. A record of the marriage of Catherine and Miles Scalf exists in Claiborne County, Tennessee. The marriage record has not been obtained at this time, however a copy of this marriage record states, Miles Scalf to Catherine Scalf July 14, 1854 - Bk 3, pg 48.

Another record also exists in Claiborne County, Tennessee for a Miles J. Scalf. Miles J. Scalf to Martha E. Qualls - July 10, 1854 - Bk 3, pg 45.

This Miles Scalf applied for a license to marry Martha Qualls just four days before he applied for a license to marry Catherine Scalf. This is very confusing and this may not be the same person although we know of no other Miles Scalf other than the son of Ira.

A Miles Scalf later married Lucy Jackson in Clay County, Kentucky and it is also unknown if this was the same Miles Scalf as above but the records suggest that he was. Catherine Scalf and Miles Scalf were not married very long. Miles and Catherine do not show up on the census records and it is unknown what might have happened.  No further information is known of Catherine Scalf and she might have died after her marriage.

 

MARY ANN SCALF
Daughter of
John Scalf, Jr. & Martha Patsy Counts
Mary<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Mary Scalf, daughter of John and Patsy Counts Scalf was born about 1839 according to the 1850 census of Claiborne County, Tennessee. Mary Scalf married Edward Messer February 23, 1871.

This may or may not be the same Mary Scalf in the home of John Scalf, Jr. Listed below is a message from a descendent of this line in relation to Mary and Ed Messer. It appears that Edward Messer was married first to Anne Patterson. Anne had also been married prior to this union to John Walker. John died about 1833 and Anne married Ed Messer, son of Moses Messer and Winnie Golden.

It is reported that sometime during the marriage of Edward Messer and Anne Patterson, Edward began having children with Mary and divorced Anne and married Mary.

The following information was sent to Virgil Scalf by another researcher with the exception of the census records, which were compiled by Virgil Scalf. 

Marriage: Nov. 17, 1831
WALKER, John to PATTERSON, Anne; Wm. HOPPER, minister; William PATTERSON, father

NOTE:  John WALKER will die about 1833 leaving Anne PATTERSON WALKER with a young child, Elizabeth JANE PATTERSON.   Then she will marry Edmond/Edward MESSER, s/o Moses MESSER and Winnie GOLDEN.   Then after a bunch of kids, he will start having babies with Mary SCALF (less than half his age) and will then divorce Anne and marry Mary SCALF and then they move to Missouri where he will die.    Anne will remain in Knox County, KY and return to her former married name of WALKER where she is found on the 1880 with a daughter and a granddaughter’s young child.

Anna PATTERSON
Marriage 1 John WALKER
Married: 1830/1834
Children
Elizabeth Jane WALKER b: ABT 1834/1835 in KY
Marriage 2 Edward MESSER b: ABT 1816 in KY
Married: 24 FEB 1834
Children
Janie MESSER b: ABT 1835 in KY
William MESSER b: ABT 1836 in KY
Martha MESSER b: ABT 1838 in KY
Asa G. MESSER b: 22 JUN 1839 in KY
Dicey MESSER b: ABT 1842/1843 in KY
Allen MESSER b: ABT 1844 in KY
Mary MESSER b: ABT 1846/1848 in Knox County, KY
Richard MESSER b: 3 APR 1850 in KY

The data below suggests that Mary Ann Scalf, who married Ed Messer in Knox County, KY and the Mary Messer in the 1870 & 1880 Census are the same person.  It is possible that Mary Scalf was staying with the Peter Scalf family or another relative during this period.  


1850 Knox CO KY                 1 August 1850

MESSER, Edward

M

34

1816

KY

(Patterson)Ann

F

35

1815

KY

WALKER, Elizabeth

F

16

1834

KY

MESSER, William

M

14

1836

KY

              Martha

F

12

1838

KY

              Asa G.

M

10

1840

KY

              Dicy

F

  8

1842

KY

              Allen

M

  6

1844

KY

              Mary

F

  4

1846

KY

              Richard

M

3/12

1850

KY


1860 Knox CO TN                 7 July 1860                 Stinking Creek

MESSER, Edward

M

44

1816

KY

              Anna

F

50

1810

KY

              Jane

F

25

1835

KY

              Asa J.

M

21

1839

KY

              Dicia

F

18

1842

KY

              Allen

M

16

1846

KY

              Mary

F

12

1848

KY

              Richard

M

10

1850

KY


NOTE: 
Ed Messer married Mary Scalf in Knox County, KY on 1/23/1871

1870 Knox CO KY                 3 August 1870                        Subdivision 93

MESSER, Edward

M

55

1815

KY

(Scalf), Mary

F

21

1849

KY

            Elihu

M

  4

1866

KY

            Anthony

M

  1

1869

KY

            Richard

M

20

1850

KY

            Ellis

M

13

1857

KY

            Jordan

M

16

1854

KY

            Anna

F

60

1810

KY

            Jane

F

35

1835

KY

            Martha

F

2/12

1870

KY

The Mary Messer in the 1870 & 1880 census appears to be Mary Scalf,

1880 Ray CO MO                 18 June 1880              Camden Township

MESSER, Edward

Head

64

1816

KY

SC

TN

             Mary

Wife

35

1845

KY

TN

TN

             Elihu

Son

13

1867

KY

KY

KY

             Anthony

Son

11

1869

KY

KY

KY

             Winnie

Dau

  9

1871

KY

KY

KY

             John K.

Son

  7

1873

KY

KY

KY

             Thursa A.

Dau

  5

1875

KY

KY

KY

             Jessee

Son

  3

1877

KY

KY

KY

             Margaret A.

Dau

10/12

1879

KY

KY

KY

Name: Edward Messer

Birth: Abt 1816 in Knox Co. KY.

Death: aft 1870 bef 1880 in Knox Co. KY.

 Note: Married by William Hopper
Bondsman George Patterson

Father: Moses Messer b: 1790 in Edgefield Co. SC.
Mother: Winnie Golden b: 1795 in Powell River Valley TN.

Marriage: Anna Patterson b: 1810 in KY

Married: 24 Feb 1834 in Knox Co. KY.

Children:

     1) Allen Messer b: 7 Jan 1844 in Knox Co. KY.
     2) Richard Messer b: 3 Apr 1850 in Knox Co. KY.
     3) Mary Messer b: 19 Jun 1847 in Knox Co. KY.
     4) William Messer b: 1836 in Knox Co. KY.
     5) Martha Messer b: 1838 in Knox Co. KY.
     6) Asa G. Messer b: 22 Jun 1839 in Knox Co. KY.
     7) Dicey Messer b: 25 Aug 1841 in Knox Co. KY.

Name:
Moses Messer

Birth: 1790 in Edgefield Co. SC.

Death: Aft 1870 in Knox Co. KY.

Note: Moses and Winnie are still alive in Knox Co on the 1870 Census

Father: John Messer b: 1755 in Edgefield Co.SC.
Mother: Agnes Unk. b: 1755 in VA.

Marriage: Winnie Golden b: 1795 in Powell River Valley TN.

Married: 9 Apr 1812 in Knox Co. KY.

Children

     1) Elizabeth Messer b: 1835 in N.Carolina
     2) Sarah Messer b: 10 Sep 1827 in Knox Co. KY.
     3) Emily Messer b: 1825 in Knox Co. KY.
     4) Edward Messer b: Abt 1816 in Knox Co. KY.
     5) Mary Polly Messer b: 1818 in Knox Co. KY.
     6) Moses Messer b: 1822 in Knox Co. KY.
     7) Abraham Messer b: Jun 1832 in Knox Co. KY.
     8) Leanor Messer b: 1834
     9) Andrew A Y Messer b: 24 Oct 1838 in Knox Co. KY.

Name: Winnie Golden

Birth: 1795 in Powell River Valley TN.

Death: Aft 1870 in Knox Co. KY.

Father: Richard Golden b: Abt 1740 in Tyrone, Ireland
Mother: Mary Francis Lowe

Marriage 1 Moses Messer b: 1790 in Edgefield Co. SC.
Married: 9 Apr 1812 in Knox Co. KY.

Name: Mary Messer

Birth: 19 Jun 1847 in Knox Co. KY.

Death: 23 Nov 1923 in Knox Co. KY.

Burial: Elon Orange Co In

Father: Edward Messer b: Abt 1816 in Knox Co. KY.
Mother: Anna Patterson b: 1810 in KY

Marriage 1 James M Mills b: 22 Dec 1847 in Knox Co. KY.

Married: 25 Aug 1887 in Knox Co. KY.

Children

     1) Dicey Mills b: 20 Dec 1874 in Knox Co. KY.
     2) William Mills b: 1868 in Knox Co. KY.
     3) Richard Mills b: 1870 in Knox Co. KY.
     4) John Mills b: 1872 in Knox Co. KY.
     5) Allen Mills b: 1877 in Knox Co. KY.

KCK Marriage Book E

Ed Messer to Mary Scalf
Bondsman: John Scalf
Bond issued Jan 23 1872
[no other information]

KCK Marriage Book BB & C

February 23, 1871
Ed Messer to Mary Scalf
By: A Y Messer, M C At: Ed Messer's
Wit:  A B Messer and James W Patterson

Mary Messer Mills was the daughter of Edward Messer and Anne Patterson.

1870 Knox CO KY                 5 August 1870                        Subdivision 93

MILLS, James

M

22

1848

KY

(Messer), Mary

F

22

1848

KY

            William

M

  3

1867

KY

            Richard

M

  1

1869

KY

 


JAMES SCALF
Son of
John Scalf, Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts
Mary<John Jr.<John Sr.<Lewis Scalf

Nothing is known of James Scalf at this time.

Corrections should be made here to the writings of Scalf Family History, page 177 by Elmer D. Scalf. Elmer states that he believed that William #2 had been married shortly before his death. He also lists the names of those that he believed were children of William.

     1) Matilda Scalf married Zachariah Trent February 12, 1850 Claiborne County, TN.  This was not a child of William Scalf. Trent family researchers state this was Matilda Hoffman not Matilda Scalf.

     2) Tebitha Scalf married Cornelius Trent January 6, 1854. This appears to be the same Talitha Scalf who married William Scalf. William died 1852 and she remarried to Cornelius Trent. It cannot be denied that she was a daughter of William #2, however, no records in Hawkins or the surrounding counties suggest a marriage for William Scalf, #2. Talitha was often noted as Tabitha. This is also incorrect.

     3) Hannah E. Scalf married John Croffon. This name could have been Crawford or Coffman but doubtful it was Croffon. It cannot be denied that she was a daughter of William #2 as well but no records suggest a marriage for this William. It is believed that Hannah could have been a daughter of John Jr. and Patsy or even from the Carter/Washington/Sullivan/Greene County Scalfs but no confirming evidence has been found.

     4) Bennie Scalf (D. 1932, Hawkins Co. TN).  This was my great-grandfather and the son of Berryman Scalf. His name was Berry B. Scalf. He died of a stroke in Hawkins County at the home of his son, Charlie Scalf in 1932. I have seen this record and it does look like Bennie; however Berrie often appears to be Bennie on the records, as Bery appears to be Benj. 

Although it does not appear that the earlier children named above belonged to John Scalf, Jr., the possibility always exists that John could have married in Floyd County, Kentucky in 1810 when his family arrived there or shortly before. If John married before he married Patsy, this wife could have died and he remarried to Patsy Counts in Russell County, Virginia. No information has surfaced to confirm this happened; however, it is a possibility.

Conclusion: The older children listed in Chronicles of the Scalf Family and Scalf Family History cannot be confirmed.  With the available records, we feel sure that John Scalf of Putnam County, Missouri was not a son of John Scalf, Jr. and Martha “Patsy” Counts.

We also cannot confirm Isaac Scalf as a son of John Scalf, Jr. Circumstantial evidence suggests that Isaac and John might have been brothers and sons of Benjamin Scalf: However, it is also just as possible they were only cousins.  Until further records can be found to confirm Isaac Scalf as either a son of John Scalf, Jr.,or Benjamin Scalf, Isaac will remain in this section.
 

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